obama's record. and to the degree that it is about romney is he a credible alternative they now see it and i think it is probably because the polls indicate that this old argument isn't breaking through as a choice that you have is a choice between what they say is the obama record of greater dependency and greater economic stagnation and the romney plan which they say would create greater opportunity and greater growth. that is i think the line and the attack line that you are going to be hearing from romney on wednesday. >> shannon: and there was some as we have seen on both sides quite a bit in recent days managing of expectations for the debates not only at top of the ticket but also when ryan takes on the vice president. >> chris: i asked about that because, of course, this week this wednesday is the presidential debate but the next week i think it is 8 days later is the first and the only ryan/biden debate and i asked him about that and he started talking about what a great debater he was. i sa